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The O.C. (season 1)

I have tried to bring this list up to featured standard and I feel it now matches the standard of other similar featured lists. This is my first attempt at featured content so hope I have missed anything really obvious that would fail it. Thanks to Matthewedwards for his input at the recent peer review. --Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:43, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Further to my peer review, I have done a copy edit:
  • Full dates are not required by the MOS to be wikilinked any more, so I removed them
  • There was one reference with a retrieval date of 1989, so I updated that
  • I also converted all the references to {{cite web}} or {{cite news}}
  • Some of the publishers in the references were itallicised, so I removed those by moving them from work= to publisher=.
  • Made a few minor changes to some words, using AmEn instead of BrEn, such as "harbour" → "harbor", "whilst" → "while", etc and date format on "26 October 2004" → "October 26, 2004"

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 19:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

question - Image:The_O.C._the_complete_first_season.jpg appears to be decorative, how does this image meet WP:NFCC? Fasach Nua (talk) 15:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I am by no means an expert on image policies so if this image violates policy or consensus requires it's removal I will not hesitate in doing so. Correct me if I'm wrong but I guess the criteria you think it fails is "8. Significance". This is my interpretation of why it doens't violate policy but if I am wrong please let me know:

• The image accompanies it's relevant DVD section and quickly allows readers to identify and verify various facts about the DVD, such as name, number of discs. It also shows how the DVD is packaged and distributed. Digipak is an incorrect general word often used and refers to a very specific method. It is difficult to describe exactly a seven disk set is packaged & distributed in words and an image does this very well. On that note would you be more in favour of and image like this [1] which perhaps portrays some of those aspects better. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

On reflection, I would keep this image, move it to the infobox and lose the other two. It serves to identify the series and the characters WP:NFCC#3 Fasach Nua (talk) 08:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I would oppose promotion while the three non-free images are included Fasach Nua (talk) 12:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I am not in favour of moving the image in question to the infobox as Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Style guidelines#Image prefers a poster or intertitles. Given this could you clarify you opposition, is purely based on the number of fair-use images, or on a specific picture violating a WP:NFCC, because you said you were in favour of keeping the DVD image. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

The DVD image at the bottom needs to go. There is no critical commentary on said image (Critical commentary does not constitute listing the features on the DVD set). The image of the cast is a little more borderline. My question is, are we going to be looking at the same people for each succeeding season page (Appears that way on the next two season pages)? If so, then it should go, as there is nothing special about the look of any of these characters, thus standard free images of all these "living" people can be attained if images are even necessary. The only image I don't have a problem with is the infobox image, as general consensus has always been that the infobox is fair-game for the universal "identifier" image of the article.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done, but i'm not sure about consensus always having existed. I feel a valid point to make under WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, is that earlier this year this article was promoted with seperate fair-use DVD images for the infoboxes of three different releases. Was this wrong? I think establishing a clear consensus could be useful.

Additionally although not really an issue here I will try to address your concerns with cast photos for subsequent seasons. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:16, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The image of the DVD boxset served to fulfill the function of both remaining images, it illustrated the programme, and it illustrated the cast. WP:NFCC minimal uses would indicate that if one image can perform the function of multiple ones, then the single image should be used in preference to the multiple images Fasach Nua (talk) 12:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. From WP:NFCC minimal usage applies when one image conveys "equivalent significant information". This is clearly not the case as the poster confirms additional significant info. like the date, time network of release none of which are information that can be obtained from the DVD image. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 12:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I would imagine the date, times and network could all be conveyed using GFDL text, therefore I oppose promotion Fasach Nua (talk) 14:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Being unsure of the fair-image minefield I consulted The Rambling Man, and have done what he suggested. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

That's one solution. You could have also just put the DVD cover in the infobox, and satisfied many elements: The cast, the name of the show, the identifier that it is the first season. It's also the image the studio deemed to represent the first season. Though, if you choose to take that route, I would crop the discs out of the picture.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 05:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

IMO, I would prefer the DVD cover in the infobox, as it's the official designation of the season, but I won't stake an oppose on it. sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 23:17, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comment "from the wrong side of the tracks" doesn't sound very encyclopedic to me. It doesn't tell us much and sounds more appropriate for a fictional novel. Use something more concrete, like "a troubled teen who grew up as an alcoholic and drug user" as an example Gary King (talk) 04:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Reply, I agree that as it stands it doesn't sound entirely encyclopedic, however it was an official description used by FOX in their show description. The FOX website has since been removed however it is used on the official Warner Bros. page (OC Insider), and has also been used as a description numerous times in the news [2], [3], [4]. You may feel your original comment still stands but I just thought i'd raise this point incase you feel it is better kept (and possible referenced). Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I recall that it was indeed used to describe the series; if that is the case, then I suggest getting the exact quote, putting it in quotes, and then referencing the quote. Gary King (talk) 17:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done, the quote is split and referenced at the end of the sentence, which hopefully should suffice. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:57, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Excellent, it looks better now. Gary King (talk) 17:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Question

• Did Network Ten air the entire season, including those already aired by Seven Nine, or did they just pick it up from where Seven Nine left off? Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 03:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

From what I remember reading (sometime last week), they aired the other three (previously aired on Nine) before showing the rest. I am annoyed however as I can't find a reference or something to verify this. But this wouldn't be suprising as I recall Channel 4 repeating the first few episodes after their long summer hiatus. The only facts I could find were that there were six months in between the channel Nine & Ten airing The O.C., with Ten purchased all the rights.^[5]. This by no means proves my claim, and assuming no proof can be found, should I change the wording to something along the line of "with Network Ten airing the remaining episodes"? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 7)

The most recent season of Degrassi: The Next Generation. I think this is up to scratch, so here we are. Part of the Seasons of Degrassi: The Next Generation Featured topic. All comments are welcome, and I'll address any that come up. Thank you, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• "In the United States, it aired Fridays ..." - removed comma

• Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• "In total, sixteen episodes aired in the US before they did Canada" - removed comma

• Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• "figures for season seven were not been as high as previous" - reword (probably remove "been")

• Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• "As the adults in the series, Stefan Brogren" - remove comma

• Y Done

• When you list cast or crew e.g. "as Marco Del Rossi, and" etc.- I don't think you need commas following the "and"

• N Not done Serial comma in use, common in North America Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• Quite right, I'm actually a little bit embarrassed I hadn't come across that before Rambo's Revenge (talk) 15:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• Balanced opinion - you mention no bad reviews in the reception section

• Working I have tried to find something, but haven't. It was hard enough to find the two reviews I got for this season. I think the problem was that the season as a whole wasn't worthy of being reviewed - positively or negatively! I'll keep looking though. I'm sure when it has ended broadcast in the US, there will be a review or two. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• Are there any citations for when episode were aired out of order (as in 718 before 717 etc.)

• Doing... Each episode has the production code on the final screen of the end credits. I'll add a ref from tvguide.com for the US, and look around for Canada. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• Up for debate, are the specials warrenting such an extensive mention here since they are not part of the season per se. Maybe a quick mention and put detail either in a section in the main Degrassi: Next Gen page or in List of episodes.

• They are already mentioned in Degrassi: The Next Generation. They could be moved to List of Degrassi: The Next Generation episodes I guess. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• I'm in favour of moving to the List of the episodes. You can mention that they aired specials in the hiatus of the original run, but I wouldn't include their content here. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 15:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Good work overall. However I'm tired so may miss some things, or incorrectly point out things that are fine, so I will come back and take a more rigorous look at this tomorrow. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 23:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

More

• Table headings, all are left aligned exept title, shouldn't it be consistent. It's personal preference but I'd centre them all, however I'm just after consistency.
  • N Not done. This is to do with the formatting of {{episode list}} (and its sub-templates), not how I rendered it on the page. Take a look at any page using this template, and you'll see they're all this way. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
    • OK, I originally disagreed, and tried to fix it using code in this page. It works on the article page but messes up the translusion to List of episodes, so undid my edit. While there may be some complicated way to do it, it is beyond me and I will not persue it further or object on these grounds. Sorry, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• "The Degrassi students return after the winter break to find it has merged with nearby". I'd make "it"→"the school".
  • Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• "Confidante" is feminine, I think you want the masculine "confidant"
  • Y Done, good catch. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• In Another brick in the wall - "some students are do not welcome" mistake fix with your preference of words
  • Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• In Ladies Night - "of love to Manny and give it to her with" gives
  • Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• "neighbour" → "neighbor" as using American English
  • Not in Canada ;) Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• Not sure about this as I don't watch the show. Should it be "Graduation Party" or graduation party, is it an official event name?
  • I changed it to "Class of 2007 Graduation Party". I'm really not sure as it hasn't aired in the US yet, and the fansite is undergoing a refit so I can't download the ep either. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• In We Built This City - "Things are going well, until her growing attraction with Damian leads to a kiss and are caught by Manny and Toby", should it be "they are" caught.
  • Y Done - changed to ", which is..." Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• Ref 9 has extra [[ ]] around the date.

Rambo's Revenge (talk) 15:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

comment Beter utility could be gained from Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 7) if the caption was to identify the characters as well as the programme Fasach Nua (talk) 15:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television/Style_guidelines#Image, which says "The image presented in the infobox should ideally be an intertitle shot of the show (i.e. A screenshot capture of the show's title) or a promotional poster used to represent the show itself. Failing that, a DVD cover may be used." I'll identify each character if you think I have to, but I think that's a bit too much information for an infobox (there's like 20 characters there). Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• Regardless of the MoS, WP:NFCC needs to be met. You are right, a cast list is probably too much for the infobox, I would like to see the image used to identify the cast memebrs. It can be referenced from a different section, or indeed the image can be moved out of the infobox Fasach Nua (talk) 09:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

• N Not done at this time. The image is a screenshot of the intertitles. The TV MOS says this is what should be used in the infobox, or a poster or DVD cover. Season 7 isn't out on DVD, and there is no poster, so the intertitles it is. When it comes out on DVD, the image will be changed I expect. What part of NFCC does the image not meet? And if it were to be moved, what image should be in the infobox? I don't see the point of having 2 fair-use images in an article when only one would suffice. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comments
  • Infobox has capitalised "Season" for no good reason. And perhaps it should reflect the title of the list. Otherwise why the difference in terminology?
    • Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "run" in infobox doesn't need spaces between the dates and the en-dash.
    • N Not done This is how it is rendered by the infobox, not by how I typed the information. Also, WP:DASH says "All disjunctive en dashes are unspaced, except when there is a space within either or both of the items". Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "rape, drugs, cancer, HIV, and relationships." - personal but I'd reorder to "relationships, drugs, cancer, rape and HIV" to kind of list it in order of likelihood I suppose.
    • Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
  • " reviews for the season were of praise, rather than criticism." - reword. I'm positive not all reviews were of praise and, even then, some of the reviews offered criticism.
  • Cast section is bluelink overdose. Why link singer for example?
    • Y Done Everything but actor and character names should now be unlinked. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email)
  • "in association CTV." with?
    • Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "The Canadian Film or Video Production Tax Credit " - which one? What do you mean here?
    • That's the name. I guess it's a tax credit thing for Canadian film or video productions.
  • "to spiral down " - wee bit weasel/POV.
    • Y Done. Changed to "to fall" Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "The winners will be announced on 4 August 2008." somewhat destablises the list...
    • Not much though. By August 5 it will say whether they won or lost. It's one sentence that needs to be fixed, not an entire section. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "episodes 5 October – 16 November 2007" why not English like " from 5 October to 16 November 2007"?
    • Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "and went off air 9 May, and returned" - "and went off air 9 May, before returning..." (avoiding consecutive "and"s)?
    • Y Done Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Special episode is linked twice in two sentences, and worse, to "very special episode" - special or very special? and avoid overlink.
    • Y Done Changed to Television special, and completely removed the sentence where it appeared the second time. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "Halloween themed rap" - halloween-themed?
    • Y Done
  • " PART ONE " capped for what reason? same with TWO.
    • Consistency with the other seasons. I'll change them all over the next couple of days. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "Too intoxicated to realize what she is doing, Darcy allows herself to be taken into a bedroom by an unknown rapist. " - checking realize = Canadian and secondly "by an unknown rapist" reads odd - perhaps "an unknown man who rapes her"?
    • Firefox spell check on Canadian says "realize", Y Done the second. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
  • "tries a little matchmaking " not particularly encycopaedic.
  • Y Done "arranges a date for him"? Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
• I haven't got through the synopses yet, so this is a start...! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Lost (season 4)

Main page	Articles
Lost (season 4)	The Beginning of the End (Lost) – Confirmed Dead – The Economist (Lost) – Eggtown – The Constant – The Other Woman (Lost) – Ji Yeon – Meet Kevin Johnson – The Shape of Things to Come (Lost) – Something Nice Back Home – Cabin Fever (Lost) – There's No Place Like Home

Special thanks to Sceptre (writer of "The Economist", "Ji Yeon" and "Cabin Fever"; primary writer of "Meet Kevin Johnson"; secondary writer of "Confirmed Dead"), Jackieboy87 (primary writer of "There's No Place Like Home"; secondary writer of Lost: season 4), Cornucopia (secondary writer of Lost: season 4) and 97198 (copyeditor of "The Beginning of the End", "Confirmed Dead" and "Eggtown"). 4/13 = 30.8%; twelve episode (including triple-length finale twelfth episode of writers strike-shortened season) articles + season list page; from Lost WikiProject, which covers the television show Lost. Note to promoter: Please use this image. Thanks, –thedemonhog talk • edits 03:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• Support - Excellent work, I've been watching the articles flourish as I was watching the season. I just hope it won't stop the project from working on getting the GAs to FAs, but I doubt it. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
• Support Great (and speedy!) work from all those involved. Nothing wrong that I can see. —97198 talk 06:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• Support - Meets requirements and criteria. Anyway, this is annoying me: Can you put a space between the GA and FA icons and the article's name? --haha169 (talk) 16:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
• Support Zginder 2008-07-23T17:24Z (UTC)
• Support great slew of articles (and the most impressive, they all reached GA status quickly after each episode release). Also, the only vote in the Season FLC was mine... igordebraga ≠
• Support. Buen trabajo. By the way, will you have to add a ^(subtopic) link to Seasons of Lost? Xnux the Echidna 18:24, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Meerkat Manor (supplementary nomination)

This topic is already featured. It is being re-nominated to add additional items. See Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Meerkat Manor for the archived discussion of the topic's successful nomination. The additional items are:

1. Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins

Main page	Articles
Meerkat Manor	List of Meerkat Manor episodes - List of Meerkat Manor meerkats - Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins

I'm nominating Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins for addition to this featured topic as it is a "prequel" film to the television series and directly related to the topic. It is now a GA article, making it an acceptable addition to the topic. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 03:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Support - nice work :) rst20xx (talk) 19:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

• Support per criteria. –thedemonhog talk • edits 20:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

• Support per above. Zginder 2008-07-07T14:08Z (UTC</