Partial chaotically ordered set of my interests in the English version of Wikipedia are listed bellow but, since I am participating here, I must say, my interests have grown to very high altitudes almost from a nowhere-land. I would like to believe I know something, but most probably I might be wrong. I am glad to hear that Janez Demšar was spending 2 years on physics at UL where he learned some mathematics as he wouldn't learn it otherwise at other universities or elsewhere in some SF novel for instance. After that he became a FRIar. Numbers are like children as they say. Our human civilization | universe is young, so there is a vast amount of time. Or is it? Let me give here one Solomon Lefschetz's quote
Don't come to me with your pretty proofs. We don't bother with that baby stuff around here.
which tells me much.
To understand means to simplify. (RussianПонять - значит упростить) [From Strugatsky's SFnovelВолны гасят ветер (Waves blow out the wind, translated to English as The Time Wanderers)]
Slovene|Slovenian/Talk - I am planning to protest about silent adopting a term Slovenian instead of Slovene - perhaps even to Jimmy Donal "Jimbo" Wales) In an interview for Slovene National TV's broadcast Resnična resničnost (True reality) he fairly used a term Slovene, so I can't see why Wikipedia should use the other term ...
Some American and Canadian schoolars (Edward Gobetz) showed that a word Slovene came into English from a French word Slovėnes and therefore is incorrect, since there is a rule in English which says that countries which ends in -ia, have adjectives derived as -ian. Slovenes themselves gained their own state in 1991, and before this date they even could not be called properly in English.
By one hypothesis Venedes were the Proto-Slavs (Proto-Slovenes, Slo-veneti, Sloventi - from the last word Sloventi one might look for the Slovene word for Slovenes, when 't' is soften to 'c', producing Slovenci), an Aryan folk from Sorbian (Lusatian (Lusation), Wendish) culture along the Amber Path conquer and settle region between the Baltic sea and Adriatic Sea.
As it seems, scholars do not concern non-English etimologies. The word *sloveninъ 'Slav', *slovene in Proto-Slavic means Slavs and is derived from one basis *slov- known in geographical names and is preserved in names of rivers LithuanianŠlave, RussianSluja, PolishSława, Sławica. Very similar is also Croatian, Serbianslavelj, slavina 'bung, 'pipe'. If a hypothesis is correct *Slovene firstly meant *'inhabitants along the river *Slova or *Slovy '. Proto-Indo-European basis is *klou- 'to wash, to rinse', and is known, for example, in Latincluere 'to clean, to wash', Lithuanian šluoti 'to clean, to wipe'. After older interpretation, which is weaker in word formation and stronger in meaning, the name of the nation *slovene might be derived from Proto-Slavi*slovo 'word'. If this surmise is correct regardless to word formation, the name of the nation primarily meant something like *'people, to whom is possible to talk and who understand our language'. Marko SnojSlovenski etimološki slovar (Slovene Etymological Dictionary), Mladinska knjiga, Ljubljana 1997, (this is worth investigating)
The oldest quotation the Oxford English Dictionary has for "Slovene" is 1883, whereas the oldest for "Slovenian" is 1844, fully 43 years earlier. I think then it is fair to conclude that "Slovenian" is the older term. Secondly, the 1844 quotation for "Slovenian" is from the "Philological Society", which is a British organization, not an American one. (Nohat)
The Doubleday Dictionary, 1st Ed., Doubleday & Company, Inc., Garden City 1975:
Slovenenoun One of a group of S Slavs now living in NW Yugoslavia -- adjective Of or pertaining to the Slovenes or to their language. -- Slovenianadj., n..
Professor Peter Herrity's Slovene: A Comprehensive Grammar, which uses 'Slovene' in its name, as do most other works concentrating on the language in itself (Colloquial Slovene; A Basic Reference Grammar of Slovene; etc). (Sinuhe)
Webster's Dictionary:
Slovene - noun - One of a southern Slavic group usually classed with the Serbs and Croats. The dictionary says Slovene is Greek. Maybe that's where we get "Nazarene", as the New Testament was written largely in Greek.
Slovenian - adjective - Slovene; noun - a Slovene. Also, the language of the Slovenes, closely akin to Serbo-Croatian. (Wahkeenah)
Anyone is free to find two non-existentterms in the above list. A reward is two dark ales at Smash's pub what is about 4€ (a meek variation of Paul Erdös' reward on Collatz conjecture: mathematics is not yet ready but its lovers are). In fact there are three ones, but the third one does not count... {Reward was granted to Andrej in Slovene Wikipedia.}
I wonder if this project is worthy enough to "cawt" much of the precious time in it. It may happen in some next 500 years the Wikipedia would look totally different as it is at present. But I shout this won't happen as it is meant to be...
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