Talk:Pathogen
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To-do list for Pathogen:
  • explain the difference/relationship between a pathogen and a parasite
  • briefly describe each general type of pathogens (virus, bacteria, fungus, prion,...), and what nature and medicine has found to stop them
  • explain the "ecology" of pathogens: how they propagate, how they need their host to live so that they can survive, ...
  • explain how the ecology of pathogens can be used to stop them
  • Add reference to Koch's postulates
Priority 3  

Neisseria menigitidis? I'm having trouble believing meningitus has never reached the radar on the 'pedia...


Why is Thiomargarita namibiensis listed as a pathogen? What disease does it cause? -- Someone else 22:59 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)

woops. it's gone

I'll have this page on my to do list, unless someone lists the mechanics pathogens use to cause disease before me :) -MGM 15:03, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)


The page was listed on "pages needing attention", and User:Heidimo also asked me to take a glance at it. IMHO, most material is redundant and could be merged with list of infectious diseases (just add the names of the pathogens to the diseases they cause). Just a list of all known pathogens is a silly endeavour. Any opinions?
JFW | T@lk 11:46, 5 May 2004 (UTC)

may be useful for those just wanting the term defined. I think it is now quite good for most purposes.--inks 14:24, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Escherichia coli is most commonly causing a urinary tract infection!!!

Thanks for the very useful article. A great source of information. Much appreciated. NaySay 18:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Escherichia Coli might be the most commonly cause for urinary tract infection, but according to sources cited in the Escherichia Coli article(The first source, second paragraph half in it), it is not regarded as a pathogen because only some strains of it will cause illness.

62.97.167.17 19:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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i think, this article focuses a bit too much on human pathogens. especially in the table about "types of pathogens". Myrmeleon formicarius (talk) 04:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

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Bit of an issue with formatting on this page, with lots of information being displayed in the 'prions' section of the table. Im not wikiliterate enough to fix this however :( Needs sorting out though. 83.100.130.69 (talk) 09:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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I think the etymology in this entry is wrong. It's my understanding from some other research that pathogen comes from the Greek pathos meaning "suffering" or "sorrow" and the French génique meaning "to give rise to." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuboo (talkcontribs) 12:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Pathogen definition - misappropriation =

An earlier commentator is, I think, right in that the definition given of a pathogen is wrong.

This article has just been published in the OnlineEarly section the Scandinavian Journal of Immunology (free access).

A proliferation of pathogens through the 20th century J. Cunliffe Abstract A substantial proportion of immunologists, microbiologists and health professionals – and, indeed, many dictionaries – currently regard the term pathogen as a synonym for a pathogenic organism (most often a micro-organism). I will argue that this is a distortion of its original meaning – “a specific causative agent of disease”. An analysis of the historical use of the term pathogen together with a comparison of the meanings of pathogen, pathogenic and pathogenesis suggest that this was an insidious change. It began as a convenient abbreviation, escalated into a misappropriation and is now lodged in bio-medicine’s popular lexicon. In science, we should resist the pressures brought about by the mass action of common usage – unless there is a good, logical reason to accept this change. I propose that this common usage results in a distortion and leads to conceptual confusion, particularly when we try to understand the interaction between hosts and invasive organisms. This drift, in which pathogen becomes exclusively a living organism, is corrupting. There is a strong case for correcting and reversing it.

doi: 10.1111/j.1365-3083.2008.02130.x —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cunlij (talkcontribs) 09:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

What the...

There's a whole lot of information if you press edit, but that bit doesn't show up. Exec. Tassadar (comments, contribs) 09:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Sentence removed pending clarification

I saw this sentence in the lead:

"However, pathogens can infect unicellular organisms from all of the biological kingdoms."

The word "however" was clearly out of place, so I removed it. But still the sentence was misleading/incomplete. Pathogens infect unicellular organisms, besides WHAT? I don't know enough about the subject to correct the sentence, so if YOU know how to phrase it better, please do so. Probably something along the lines of "in addition to many multicellular organisms," but I'm really not sure, nor do I know how essential the sentence is in any case. zadignose (talk) 13:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Other ways of transmission

Fleas, bedbugs, rabid animals, and so forth. I think this article could be expanded. Brian Pearson (talk) 23:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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