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Nodachi lenght

Quote: Nodachi: 80 to 90 cm End of quotation.

Isn`t the nodachi above 90 cm in all cases? From what I know, there isn`t a single sword, classified as a nodachi, that is under 91 cm. 80-90 cm is what most will call a Oukatana, or a bigger-than-usual katana, but still one. The nodachi is longer and thicker, right?

It should be. The longest nodachi to date is over 300cm long. MythSearcher^talk 19:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I-beam

On Ripley's believe it or not a samurai was able to slice through halve an I-beam, should we add this? -Babelious 15:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

There aren't any samurai anymore (outside of wannabes). Do you have a reference for this? I'm pretty skeptical about spring steel being able to slice through a real I-beam. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

You need a source on this, cause it sound impossible (and is) —Preceding unsign ed comment added by 24.119.210.17 (talk) 20:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Ripley's believe it or not is a reliable source, althought it would be verifiable. MythSearcher^talk 20:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

actualy for the one who does not believe that a well made katana could cut through an I beam this is obvious fact. Part of the issue that created the unique style of the japanese sword is the dichotomous relationship between hardness (and therefore the sharpness of the cutting edge) and the flexibility, and therefore the resiliancy of the steel. The brilliant solution was to make only one side of the blade fully tempered and quenched, which allows the katana to be much sharper than any ordinary blade period, so much so that it will cut through regular steel. the reason it will do that is normaly, since one must balance the dichotomous relationship between hardness and fexibility (if its two hard it will be brittle, if it is too soft it will not be usefull) they are generaly somewhat softer than the steel can be, which means the katana edge, which is as sharp as it is possible to make steel (and if you made a western sword that hard it would be useless because it would break on contact with a target) it will naturaly be able to cleave through naturaly hardened steel (such as an I beam), which is one of the reasons why the samourai stopped using armor even without widespread use of guns. They were simply useless in face of the sharpness of the their swords. so no this does not at all surprise me. Ibeams are generaly extremely soft as far as iron goes, and certainly nowhere near the harness of a nihonto hammon.

that said, this article has some serious drawbacks. Unfortunately the sources I used were taken off the internet, so I can't source them, but it fails to mention things like the nagamaki (the origional horsemans weapon, consisting of a sword blade mounted on top of a polearm, used for mowing at oponents legs. the tachi was more of a side arm used in closer combat and while on foot.) also the shoto used by samourai up until the nobuchenko period were strictly tanto, the precessor to the wakizashi was not invented till then.

this article needs some serious attention. Yoni 74.128.36.101 (talk) 18:36, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

You mean naginata? MythSearcher^talk 19:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

No, Nagamaki. a naginata is a proper spear, and made completely differently from nagamaki. A naginata is for infantry, Nagamaki is for horsemen. B Naginata is much thicker and spreaded, and generaly lacks a fuller, also it is much shorter, perhaps 12 inches. Nagamaki is shaped like japanses sword, with fuller at the base and closer to 2 1/2 feet. Also nakago of naginata is maybe 3 feet. Nakago of nagamaki is more like 7 inches. Yoni 74.128.36.101 (talk) 19:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Sections to add

We need to add much more detail about katanas if this is to gain good article status again. I propose some additional sections

* Manufacturing of Katanas or Construction or How Katanas are Made
* Legalities (such as which countries prohibit use or ownership)
* Use in Martial Arts (e.g. training)

Drmadskills (talk) 02:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

A couple other sections we should add

* History
* Legalities
* Anatomy

Drmadskills (talk) 02:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

History section needed

This article strongly needs a discussion of the history of the katana. I don't have the knowledge to do it myself. (The reason I came to this article was to get an overview of the history.) --JHP (talk) 22:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

What the hell? Why are the katana article and the Japanese sword articles pointing to the same discussion page?! How do we specifically discuss the katana article? --JHP (talk) 22:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I've fixed that. You can go to Talk:Katana to discuss whatever you want to discuss. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 23:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Domo Arigato Gozaimasu. --JHP (talk) 23:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that you recent edits included changing the history section to katana, while it would be within the scope of this article, it seems like it fits into the Katana article as well. Would it be a good idea to duplicate some of that info to the katana article as a start of help improving it since it got little history section in it? MythSearcher^talk 09:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)